Episode 138

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In this episode, hosts Shane Mercer and Andrew Pace dive deep into the world of sports betting with a special focus on building a bankroll from scratch. They talk to Kurt Ballard, known as Volume Bets on Instagram, who is on a remarkable journey to turn $1 into $1 million through disciplined, daily betting.

Kurt opens up about the emotional rollercoaster, the reality of variance, dealing with public scrutiny, and the relentless pursuit of his long-term goal. Together, they discuss the math, the challenges posed by sportsbook limits, the grind of low unit sizes, and why patience and process matter more than chasing overnight riches.

Later, John Wilson joins for “Grinding with Gosu,” breaking down this week’s top college football and NFL picks, and delivering sharp analysis with a dash of humor and pop culture references.

👋 About The Host & Guests

Shane Mercer is a host of "Behind The Lines," bringing insightful sports analysis and warmth to each episode. With his journalism background and personal passion for sports, he explores betting stories, integrity issues, and interviews guests in a relatable, engaging style.

Andrew Pace is a featured guest on the "Behind The Lines" podcast, known for his disciplined approach to sports betting and emphasis on responsible gambling. He shares insights from his betting journey, including handling challenges and maintaining long-term strategy. Andrew Pace is also the star of CBC’s "The Passionate Eye" documentary, which highlights his expertise and unique perspective within the industry.

Kurt Ballard, aka "Volume Bets" on Instagram, is a disciplined sports bettor featured on Behind The Lines episode 137. He’s documenting his journey to turn $1 into $1 million, earning respect for his responsible bankroll management and transparency—tracking thousands of bets with a strong ROI. Kurt emphasizes integrity and consistency, inspiring others in the betting community to follow a methodical and honest approach.